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<LI><FONT color=#0000ff>Allow for death in the idea of good. It seems that death comes before, if not just before, conforming to the image of Christ. </FONT></LI>
<div><FONT color=#0000ff> It is a hard doctrine if not treated with gentleness. Good for the kingdom and ultimately the subjects of the kingdom may cost them their lives. It has certainly cost the lives of many in martyrdom<br>
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</FONT><FONT color=#000000></FONT>I've never even thought of this. I'll have to think about this more.<br>
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<LI><FONT color=#0000ff>Regarding hardening: We must remember that without Christ we are all under condemnation already. As you said it is good to remember as well that hardening and sin itself can be a form of punishment. God is light and their is no darkness in him (1 John 1:5). While God may allow men to further wallow in their own evil, he himself is not responsible. God has given men the blessing of being free agents. (Romans 1:18-2:11) They may do as they please, and with a special work of the Spirit to regenerate them, they will remain enemies of God. (Eph 2:3,Rom 5:10, I Pet 1:22)</FONT></LI>
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Can you tell me more about the "free agents" idea. I understand the idea that we are responsible for the blessings and curses God states in the book of Deuteronomy and then in Romans but do you have any other thoughts on this? By the way do those blessing and curses from Deuteronomy still apply to us and if so which which ones? I've heard that they do and that they don't apply. Which thought are you?<br>
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From: Robinson B. Heath <heath@rsqrd.com><br>
To: asuecleaver@aol.com<br>
Cc: gospelchristianity@midnighthour.org<br>
Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 9:54 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Gospelchristianity] Sermons<br>
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<div>Thanks for your response. Here are some thoughts:</div>
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<LI>You are right. I am definitely talking about those that "love him and are called according to his purpose."</LI>
<LI>Allow for death in the idea of good. It seems that death comes before, if not just before, conforming to the image of Christ. It is a hard doctrine if not treated with gentleness. Good for the kingdom and ultimately the subjects of the kingdom may cost them their lives. It has certainly cost the lives of many in martyrdom</LI>
<LI>Regarding hardening: We must remember that without Christ we are all under condemnation already. As you said it is good to remember as well that hardening and sin itself can be a form of punishment. God is light and their is no darkness in him (1 John 1:5). While God may allow men to further wallow in their own evil, he himself is not responsible. God has given men the blessing of being free agents. (Romans 1:18-2:11) They may do as they please, and with a special work of the Spirit to regenerate them, they will remain enemies of God. (Eph 2:3,Rom 5:10, I Pet 1:22)</LI>
<LI>These are both hard and comforting doctrines. They can lead to a spiritual pride and arrogance, or they can lead to humility and grace. In a sense, it all depends on the heart that receives them. The flesh is so twisted and the Enemy so wicked that they can take precious truths and make them weapons against the Gospel.</LI></UL>
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<div>Now the two wills...what do you mean?</div>
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<div>Peace - Heath</div>
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<div>On Jul 26, 2008, at 9:39 PM, <A href="mailto:asuecleaver@aol.com">asuecleaver@aol.com</A> wrote:</div>
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